Research
and writing done by: Judith C. ware
CHILDREN OF
Lucy
Catherine Ware AND Capt. Isaac
Webb
(He had a
sister named Winny Webb
who never married but was
quite wealthy)
B.
D.
B.
D.
May 24, 1820 D.
called (Thompson)
(2) Winifred (Winny) Webb
+
Matthew Thompson Scott
B.
D.
B.
D. July 01, 1833
B.
D.
D.
July 31, 1817
* He was a younger brother of Dr. John Scott
B.
D.
B. Jan. 20,
1801
D.
B.
D.
D.
(8) John Thompson Webb
B.
D.
B.
D. D.
also married Matthew
Thompson Scott
July 1836
B.
D.
In
a section written by Thomas Green (quoted in Rev. Hayden’s Virginia Genealogies,
p.43) it is recorded that:
“Isaac Webb enlisted in the
Revolutionary Army at the age of 17, served to its close, attained the rank of Captain,
and received land from
Feb. 24, 1780, after Gates
defeat, having served 3 years and more. General Clinton, by proclamation, offered to
reinstate any resigned officer who would repair to headquarters and report. Lieut. Webb at once returned and was made Captain. He marched to the South, with 120 men, and never
resigned afterwards.’” Isaac was a soldier in the
4th
In a letter written to
President Hayes from Isaac Scott (grandchild of Lucy and Isaac Webb and son of
their daughter Winifred and M.T. Scott) he wrote in: “. . . (Isaac Webb) died in June 1833 –
left a will which can be found in the Fayette County Court Clerk’s Office at
Lexington, Kentucky, I think. Dr.
Webb’s grandfather, James Ware, died about 1820 in 
In
records kept at the Hayes Library, (Josiah W. Ware Recollections, RBH Diary, III p.
581-582), Josiah wrote this about Lucy Webb:
“I knew Lucy Ware
intimately and corresponded with her. When she
was about sixty or seventy years old, her hair was cut short and was as white as snow. She was a perfect specimen of hospitality. She was very fine-looking; and had as fine a face
as you ever saw, full of kindness and benevolence. She
was rather fleshy, not too much so and about the height of Lucy (Webb) Hayes.”
In
a letter written to Governor Hayes in 1876, Josiah William Ware wrote of his remembrance
of Lucy Webb – his aunt:
“Aunt Lucy and my
father were each others favorites, as she told me, but she must have been every ones
favorite that knew her. In every respect she
was the most perfect woman I ever knew – she was old and white-headed when I first
saw her.”
In
a different letter, Josiah wrote: “I
can see a resemblance in the form of cousin Lucy’s face to
Aunt Lucy . . . her eye shows a cheerfulness that was a sweet trait of Aunt Lucy.”
Josiah
also said that:
“I also knew Cousin Lucy’s grandfather, Isaac Webb. He was a very small man, of an active figure. I first saw him, at their house near
CHILDREN
(1) Catherine J. Webb was always called Kitty, and she was born on
In
a letter she wrote to her cousin Sally Ware (later
to marry Sigismund Stribling) on
“I have four sons, three living. My first I call John Scott after Dr. Scott of
Frankfort, my second is named Webb after my father, my third is Joseph Scott after Dr.
Scott formerly of Chillicothe (the doctor is now living in Frankfort), and Thomas after
Grandfather Conn. My second son, Webb, I had
the misfortune to lose (last March was a year) with whooping cough and measles. She went on to have a daughter named Kitty as well.
*In a different letter
written to Sally by her mother, Lucy Webb, Lucy writes “ James
She goes on to say,
“Kitty’s oldest son, John, is living with James
Webb. He (James)
got me to write to his father (James Conn) that if he would let him have John, he would educate
him and give him whatever professional character his talents
would best suit. He sent him. Kitty is living with me. The other two, Joseph & Thomas, are with him (James Conn) – to my sorrow.
I wrote a letter to him the other day that if he would give up their mother’s
property (Mr. Webb gave her though but little), we would take the other two boys and
educate them and insure to them the property when they came of age. But I did not send it (the letter),
knowing it would displease him very much.” 
Kitty died on May 24, 1820 of cholera
(2) Winifred Webb was known as Winny, and she was born on
In
a letter from James Ware II to his brother James Ware III in
In a letter Lucy Webb
wrote to her niece Sally Stribling (shortly after 1820)
she said:
“Winny has 11 children living and
two dead. She expects to be confined in two
months. James, her oldest, is one of the
smartest boys. He’ll finish his education
this year. Betsy is pretty faced, but too low
entirely. Isaac and Mary are going to school
in
The Hayes Memorial Library
has a paper where the following incident was reported.
Mary Ann Todd Webb (Mrs. William T.)
Nicholson relayed this story to her daughter, Isabelle Eugenia Nicholson in 1876.
“. . . [In 1833] Sister Winny’s infant was not two weeks
old . . . when news came of the death of her parents and her brother reached her. She was kept in so much terror of cholera (because) all the bank officers had died of cholera –
(except Mr. Scott [her husband] and one other), and he [was] called upon to write wills of persons who had
cholera. When Betsey was told of the death of
Papa, Mama, & Isaac, she (without thinking) ran into Sister Winnie’s room and
said, ‘O, Sister, Ma, Pa, & Isaac are dead.’
Sister lost all reason though Dr. Scott went to her and said, ‘Winnie, you are
not sick but frightened. I assure you, you are
not sick’ . . . and when bother was told, he exclaimed in anguish, he ‘had
killed them all.’ Sister Winnie died in a
short time after. Maria [Cook Webb] took the
baby who was William and weaned Lucy [weaned Lucy [Webb Hayes] who was two years old.
The cholera was at its height at that time. .
Winny
did, indeed, die of cholera on
Winny
and MT Scott had 14 children together before she died:
(1) James W. Scott Born:
(2) Elizabeth (Betsy)
Thompson Scott Born:
(3) Isaac Webb Scott Born:
(4) Lucy Catherine Scott Born:
(5) Mary Dewees
Scott Born:
(6) Lucy Webb Scott Born:
(7) John William Scott Born:
(8) Winny
Webb Scott Born:
(9) Matthew Thompson Scott Born:
(10) Margaret Scott Born:
1824 Died:
(11) Lucy Ware Scott Born: 1826 Died:
(12) Joseph Scott Born:
(13) William Nicholson
Scott Born:
(14) William Thompson
Scott Born:
In
records kept at the RB Hayes Library, it states that, “Matthew Thompson Scott was a cashier, then
President of the Northern bank of
In
a letter from Rutherford B. Hayes to his sister in 1855, he describes M.T. Scott this way:
“a fine old gentleman of over seventy years -
- is staid and sober, but not severe or strict.”
In
his letter, Hayes goes on to say: “I . . . was
soon at home at Uncle Thompson Scott’s cousinly mansion at
(3) Dr. James Webb was born on
In a letter written to
President Hayes from Isaac Scott (grandchild of Lucy and Isaac Webb and son of
their daughter Winifred and M.T. Scott) he wrote in reference to James, “Dr. Webb died at my father’s (M.T. Scott) house during the terrible scourge of the cholera in
July 1833. I sat by his bedside and nursed him
during his illness of 8 days and nights – never taking off my clothes as there was so
many sick we could not get help. We had four
sick at he same time. My mother (Winnie)
died a few days before Uncle James.”
This is the same time
period that was mentioned in the section on Winny (sister of
James) – where Mary Ann Todd Webb (Mrs. William T. Nicholson) wrote how “Maria (Cook
Webb – wife of James) took the baby who was William (Winny’s last child) and weaned Lucy (Webb Hayes) who was two years old.”
(a)
Dr.
Joseph Thompson Webb Born:
(b)
Dr.
James DeWees Webb Born:
(c)
Lucy
Ware Webb Born:
Dr.
James Webb died in 1833 during the cholera epidemic – while tending his father’s
illness.
(1) Lucy Webb
(born 1824) who
married Dr. Robert W. Bush and died in 1894
(2) Edward Webb who died in 1833
(3) Isaac Webb IV (born
(4) Frances Webb (born 1828).
In the letter
from Lucy Webb, she wrote:
“Isaac has two children; Lucy and
Edward (who) live ½ mile from him on Miss Winny Webb’s farm.
I believe
this was the Winny Webb who was a sister to Isaac Webb
and never married.
(5) Lucy Caroline Webb was born on
He already had 2 daughters from a previous marriage with Martha Berkley Finley
Sarah Finley Scott Born: Nov. 27, 1806 wed: David Humphreys
Elizabeth Thompson Scott Born: May 10, 1808 wed: Humphrey Fullerton
After the death of Martha, Dr. Scott & Lucy had the following children:
(1) Lucy Catherine Scott Born:
(2) Mary Epps Scott Born:
(3) Margaret Scott Born:
(4) Dr. Isaac Webb Scott Born: Jun 27, 1826 wed: Mary
F. Died
(5) James N. Scott Born:
(6) Catherine Scott Born:
(7) Joseph Thompson Scott Born:
(8) Matthew Scott Born:
(9) Winnie Maria Scott Born
(10) David Humphreys Scott Born:
“Elizabeth, the
doctor’s daughter by his first wife, is beautiful.”
In
her will dated 1868, Lucy Scott made this request: “To
my step-daughter Elizabeth Fullerton (I give) my breast pin set with pearls and containing the hair
of my husband, her father.”
Lucy
Webb, in her letter to Sarah, went on to talk about her grandchildren by Lucy and Dr.
Scott -
“Lucy
and Mary (Epps) are going to school in
Lucy
and Dr. Scott obviously moved to the country because her mother (Lucy Webb) continues to
write in her letter:
“She (Lucy) is so pleased with raising
so many fowls, she and Winny (both). I was up there two weeks ago, and I never saw the
like of the fowls in my life. I believe we had
150 turkeys and as many ducks and chickens. I
was all but distracted with the noise and fuss with feeding.
When I came home, I found a calm both in the house and
yard; but for fowls and children.”
Dr.
Scott died on
"It becomes our painful duty to record the death of
our very highly esteemed friend and excellent fellow citizen, Dr. Joseph Scott, of
Lucy
died herself in March 1868.
In
a letter from Fay Webb Dunlap to the librarian at the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential
Center in 1994, she wrote:
“Mary Ann Todd
Nicholson was a sister to my great-grandfather, Cuthbert Webb. In her manuscript to her daughter, Eugenia, she did
not give the name of who her brother Cuthbert married. I
have always believed that Cuthbert married Susannah Jones who was a sister to Louisa
Jones, who married Cuthbert’s brother Isaac Webb, but so far I have not been
able to prove it.”
In
a response to her letter,
“The records which I am enclosing were kept by
Watt Marchman, a former director of the center . . . (his notes were) revised to include that
Cuthbert never married. It appears that Mary
Ann, brother Cuthbert, and daughters Eugenia and Elizabeth C. all settled in
In
records kept at the RB Hayes Library, it is stated that “Cuthbert Webb died at the residence of his
sister, Mrs. Nicholson in
(7)
Mary Ann Todd Webb was born on
(1) Webb (also called John) Nicholson Died May
25, 1886
(2) James Cuthbert Nicholson Born:
Oct. 1825
(3) William P. Nicholson
(4) Mary Susan Nicholson
(5) Lucy C. Nicholson Born:
July 10, 1828 Married
Maj. David Herndon Lindsay
Lucy was
known as the “Belle of Boonville,
(6) Elizabeth C. (Lizzie) Nicholson Born: 1832 Never married.
She lived with her sister, Lucy Lindsay, in
(7) Alice Peachey Nicholson Died:
(8) Louise W. Nicholson Born:
1857
(9) L. Gertrude Nicholson Born:
1859
(10) Isabelle
Eugenia (called Eugenia or Belle) Nicholson
Died some
time after 1923
Born:
July 1862 Did not marry
In
the same letter written by Fay Webb Dunlap, she wrote:
“According to the book, Kentucky Obituaries,
1787-1854 by Glenn Clift, page 110 says, ‘Alice Peachey (Nicholson), youngest daughter (at the time) of W.P. and Mary
Nicholson, of Baltimore, Maryland died at the Lexington Kentucky residence of M. T. Scott
on August 27, 1836”
(8) John Thompson Webb was born on
There
is a paper on file in the Hayes Library that says John Thompson “received 1,000 acres of land on Paint Creek in
(1) Isaac Webb Cunningham who
married a Miss Beaty
(2)
Robert T. Cunningham
(3) Lucy Cunningham and
(4) Joseph (called John)
Cunningham.
“Betsey Cunningham has two very
interesting boys, Webb and Robert- she would have been so delighted to have met with you
and Josiah.”
“Aunt Betsey is twenty years younger
than her husband and the youngest woman of her age I have ever seen.”
While
he was visiting with Betsey and Thompson, he
met “. . . a daughter of Aunt Betsey by her
first husband (Rev. Cunningham) (another Lucy Cunningham) with her rich husband
spending the honeymoon here after their tour. The
two sons (Webb and Robert) of Aunt Betsey by her first husband (Rev. Cunningham) are twenty and twenty- two; wild young
fellows - fair specimens of the better sort of Kentucky-bred young men.”